An open letter to Jerk Store and Pussyhand

Dear Jerk Store and Pussy Hands,

Despite recent administrative action that resulted in your forum access being suspended, your recent activity on the Aussie / NZ forum is not acceptable and action will be taken.
The forum rules that the community accepts and abides by are available at http://www.aussienzgg.com.au/forums/show...hp?tid=660

These rules apply in the forum as well as any game servers operated by Aussie / NZ.

I would like to point out that retaliation attacks against others are not acceptable and trolling is not acceptable. If someone abuses you, get evidence if possible but bring it to the attention of an admin.

Continuing circular arguments are not helpful for your standings in the community. If you feel prior admin rulings need review, you should discuss this with admins and not the broader community.
The Aussie / NZ playing group is a community group, however its technology is privately owned, funded and its equity owner is not under any obligation to adhere to anything resulting from polls or player’s opinion.

Welldone, your obsession with all things Jap and authenticity is all good and well, but perhaps think about other’s interest in the field before constantly posting about the niche topic. The Aussie / NZ community shows no prejudice to yours or anyone’s opinions, but overloading people with your views and ideas is not desirable and will result in forum and game infractions. Your access to the forum will be denied for 30 days from the date of this post.

JerkStore, the ongoing targeting of individuals just because they offer opinions and ideas contrary to the broader community is bullying. Your criticism of people is mostly baseless and unnecessarily exasperates issues. You have instigated far too many situations that required time consuming admin enquiry that it has been decided to not include you in any further Aussie / NZ community activities. This includes forums and any current or future game servers and will be reviewed in 12 months from the date of this post.

The Aussie / NZ was developed as a relaxed community offering people an opportunity to express themselves as adults in an adult forum. Unfortunately, this ethos has been lost on many in the community resulting in these actions.

Any member is free to contact me with any questions.

Thank you Cat.

You can only be as hands off as the situation permits and things were getting pretty out of control.

I don't see why I deserve a 1 year ban from "current and future games" on the AussieNZ servers, while Welldone, who the vast majority are against, gets a 2 day forum ban. Like Larkham said, we lost vote kicks because of him, he split the community in half, pretty much killed the server (only fills up 1x per week now, used to be multiple times per week), now the rep system is disabled because of him.

This is an image of the past month of AussieNZ RO2, only fills 1x per week.




Also, Welldone having aspergers is not an excuse for him being a huge asshole that actively, deliberately tries to piss off everyone and knowingly go against the desires of much of the community and making enemies with most people. Aspergers people can still be nice, calm, and cooperative people. Welldone is not. Even if he didn't have aspergers, he wouldn't be. Because that's who he is as a person.

You and some other admins have bent over backwards to try and protect him. You all altered my thread/poll about if people wanted Welldone perm banned, it was edited to be my name, the results were edited, etc. Many people, even current/former admins, have openly been against Welldone, or the decision to ban me/not him.

In the admins defence, editing that poll to be your name was hilarious.

I agree that the way Jerkstore and others have been treating Welldone is plain bullying, and goes well beyond disagreeing with his ideas. This is a divisive argument, and those on both sides have escalated it to the point that it has become farcical. Indeed, it seems to me that both sides are equally manipulative.

I ought not to get too involved in the politics of a videogame server I haven't played on in some time, but I like to come back for a laugh. This whole situation has been to me just a laugh. For the many others involved in this, it may have meant the loss of their favourite community and favourite game. I can only rationalize what has happened so far as the following.

If Welldone was out of the picture, and did not put forward his arguments, statements, and divisive opinions, there would have existed no issue.
If Jerkstore was out of the picture, dozens of other community members still would have taken umbrage with those opinions.

Viewing Jerkstore as some 'anti-Welldone rhetoric officer' masterminding the whole scheme to bully Welldone seems not to take into account that the vast majority of players disagreed with Welldone's ideas and general conduct.

Jerkstore did put forth the greatest criticism to Welldone, and indeed did many things which were impermissible by the community standards.

I find the overall conduct of players involved to be suspect. Welldone gave his opinions, and people politely disagreed with them. But when for the second, third, fourth, fifth, etc... time, Welldone gave that same opinion, I doubt people were able to politely disagree. Welldone acted in a way inconsistent with the view of the majority of players, and it seems to me that the things he was pushing for were ultimately implemented as a way to placate him.

Mob rule, of course, is unacceptable. I agree with the tough stance taken on the permaban poll. Disliking a community member is no excuse to alienate them. Welldone certainly did many things that might warrant admin intervention (spamming text chat, annoying other players, abusing the rep system on the forums). Certainly, you have intervened, but in a way I find wholly inconsistent with the community's stance. This is no democratic polity, but I urge you to reconsider some of these stances, Cat. In giving admin opinions on these things in such a way I would suggest that ultimately YOU end up alienating community members as much as Jerkstore alienated Welldone. They are voicing their opinions, and you are telling them their opinions are no good, and have no place in the community. They ARE the community. It is hard to reconcile the idea that mob rule is unacceptable, and yet still take in the opinions of those people. All I can say is that I strongly disagree with the approach that has been taken, but concede it would be hard to take a better approach. I understand that banning Welldone and being... Well, done with it, would be against the moral compass you have in the matter, and the enshrined rules of the community to follow.

Conversely,

If you ban Jerkstore for being a person quick to anger with Welldone's antics, why not ban all those else who openly disagreed with Welldone? Why not ban any who voted in favour on the poll to permaban Welldone? Surely, if you view Jerkstore as the head honcho, all those people are his cronies acting in a way to bully Welldone. Those other people all gave Welldone his negative rep, too. Those other people all disagreed with, and gave insults to Welldone. If you ban Jerkstore, the only logical thing to do is next ban 50-75% if the players.

Benevolent as I am, my opinion would be to ban nobody, and give them one last chance. Tell Welldone and Jerkstore to shut up. The first person to throw a punch, however small, is out.

You might say both have proven themselves incapable of that. In which case, you might as well ban them both permanently right now. For blighting the community.

But this excessive action against Jerkstore... that doesn't go over well with me. Frankly, that's unfair. This community got destroyed, but the man to blame isn't Jerkstore. Not solely, at least.

If jerkstore feels the need to have his say into this issue he may. he can put in a ban appeal provide any evidence he sees fit and the senior admin group will look into it and decide if the standing should change.
We will also be looking into welldones behavior and will discuss our best coarse of action to be taken

Butts you need to understand that Jerkstore's actions with Welldone is not a new pattern.
It first came to my attention with his bullying of another regular player on the Aussie / NZ sever and also a good persona friend of mine Cpt Scarlet.
Plenty of documented footage of Jerkstore at his cuntish best available if you care to seek it out.
Sure Cpt Scarlet polarises but Jerkstore took an over and above interest in it which struck me immediately as alarming.
He was given a vacation for that and a chance to sort out his shit.
He didnt.

And as to Jerkstore's reply.

Sure Pussyhand gets punished with a server ban but let's put it at five to one.
We wont see Pussyhand around Aussie / NZ for six months and we wont see JerkStore for another two and a half years.
Might see Jerk for RO3.

NB - we will also be monitoring any separate steam accounts set up. Like the one shut down today JerkStore.

Yeah with everything that's happened I'm not going to stay quiet on this. I've got to agree with Butt's, though he's being kinder to welldone than I would be.

Given Jerkstore's behaviour and the fact that after his last unbanning he made no effort to change (sorry mate, no hard feelings, but there's more than enough guys here
to call out Welldone for his nonsense without needing you to jump in) fair's fair, not my call. Twelve months might be a bit much, though Jerk hasn't learnt when to back off
or drop it. But that while Welldone only gets a thirty day ban feels pretty fucking insulting.

It's not as if anyone has been warned for giving Jerk crap, it was even encouraged wasn't it( not disagreeing, the psychoanalysis comp was a fun way to try and beat some humility into him).
Despite abusing and insulting people on the server, throwing tantrums, causing no end of drama, and straight up refusing to even take another person into consideration,
nope Welldone gets off with a slap on the wrist! He has made it utterly clear how he regards most of the community, the only fathomable reason for him to come back is to
start shit!

And how many people have tried to help him? How many times has reason and communication failed? And how often have those efforts been rewarded with abuse and bile?
He's done his fair share of baiting and antagonizing, so why exactly is he getting preferential treatment? I can tolerate Scarlet being given abnormal leniency, he may be one
of the most hostile, vile, negative, egotistical, abusive people I've ever come across but he's hardly a regular problem. He's a living joke, easy to get to rage quit, good to laugh
at for almost everyone on the server and isn't on the forums. Welldone has offended and insulted nearly as many people but has been far more consistent, in game and here.

On that note Cat, Jerk did relent his abuse towards Scarlet to a moderate degree. Considering Jerk was not only recording his own unending harassment of Scarlet but went so
far as to give out his personal details I'm honestly shocked you even unbanned Jerkstore in the first place. Scarlet may be a horrid person but that was something I'd be ok with
you not forgiving. But he did stop the worst behaviour, stopped the videos for a while, and calmed down a bit.

A bit of extra leniency with Welldone was understandable, but this is just too much. His behaviour is not a product of his condition, and should not be excused because of it.
I'd sooner believe in a "loving god" than expect him to change, and if he's going to be back in another month then I sure as shit won't be.

(01-09-2016 12:12 AM)CatintheHat Wrote:  NB - we will also be monitoring any separate steam accounts set up. Like the one shut down today JerkStore.

And which account would that be? Because I haven't used any separate steam accounts since the other one from over a month ago. So clearly you've confused me with someone else. And speaking of ban evasion, Welldone has before created other accounts to get around his forum ban. Some of those accounts got banned for being obviously him (Welldone the Puppethand or whatever). Welldone also has, as believed by Solace (a "4chan expert") to have posted his own account/etc on 4chan, tried to accuse me me, but Welldone was too stupid to do it properly because when he sent the screenshots to Larkham/others it included "(you)" in the screenshot to show that the Welldone was the one that posted the comments and his profile there.

And Cat, where did you pull 2.5 years from? You just said 12 months, now you're saying 30?

Geebus I have already put in a ban appeal and Cat said a blatant no. The "senior admin team" or any group of people won't matter. The bottom line is Cat will say no because he said this community isn't a democracy.

Fatal Flaw Wrote:On that note Cat, Jerk did relent his abuse towards Scarlet

Thank you for understanding this when Cat cannot. He already has a biased viewpoint and perspective of events. After the initial unbanning, my action towards Scarlet was far less severe. I was no longer pursuing him and TKing him, or doing anything I did in those original 5 videos.

Also a minor correction: Scarlet's details were provided by Scarlet. I didn't uncover/discover them or trick him into providing them or etc.

(01-09-2016 01:00 AM)TheJackStraw Wrote:  And Cat, where did you pull 2.5 years from? You just said 12 months, now you're saying 30?

Jerk, that's not a response to your question, that's a threat to multiply your ban.
Honestly Cat I expected better. Jerkstore's a dick but that's sinking lower.

(01-09-2016 01:00 AM)TheJackStraw Wrote:  Also a minor correction: Scarlet's details were provided by Scarlet. I didn't uncover/discover them or trick him into providing them or etc.

Even in that case you shouldn't have been throwing them around, that's especially wrong and dangerous. If he did that himself, all's fair.
If someone else found out, that's their own actions.

And to be fair you also didn't try passing those details out a second time either.